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		<title>Comment on Jeff&#8217;s Arizona Adventures &#8211; Peavine Trail &#8211; Prescott, Arizona by Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.thecreativescorner.com/2012/05/01/jeffs-arizona-adventures-peavine-trail-prescott-arizona/#comment-26600</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 20:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looked like a fun day for sure..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looked like a fun day for sure&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tip #6 &#8211; Promoting Your Business With Photographs &#8211; Printed Banners by Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.thecreativescorner.com/2012/03/25/tip-6-promoting-your-business-with-photographs-printed-banners/#comment-26599</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 20:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use one all of the time. Bright and states my website with a lava background.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use one all of the time. Bright and states my website with a lava background.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Attention Arizona Wildflower Photographers by Jeff Colburn</title>
		<link>http://www.thecreativescorner.com/2012/03/31/attention-arizona-wildflower-photographers/#comment-26571</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Colburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 03:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Nick, they do put on a great presentation.

Have Fun,
Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Nick, they do put on a great presentation.</p>
<p>Have Fun,<br />
Jeff</p>
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		<title>Comment on Attention Arizona Wildflower Photographers by Nicholas Pappagallo Jr.</title>
		<link>http://www.thecreativescorner.com/2012/03/31/attention-arizona-wildflower-photographers/#comment-26534</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Pappagallo Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 19:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had Colleen Speak at our AZ Photographers Group Camera Club Meeting, last month and she was Great! We loved her personality, her presentation and the info was awesome!  Many members own her AZ Wildflower book already!  Her and Paul Gill were a great team to have speak - we are looking forward to having them  come back again to the AZPhotographersGroup.com meetings again soon! Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had Colleen Speak at our AZ Photographers Group Camera Club Meeting, last month and she was Great! We loved her personality, her presentation and the info was awesome!  Many members own her AZ Wildflower book already!  Her and Paul Gill were a great team to have speak &#8211; we are looking forward to having them  come back again to the AZPhotographersGroup.com meetings again soon! Nick</p>
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		<title>Comment on Digital Photography Costs More Than Film Photography by Jeff Colburn</title>
		<link>http://www.thecreativescorner.com/2011/07/04/digital-photography-costs-more-than-film-photography-3/#comment-26380</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Colburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 06:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brian, thanks for coming back.

I too am shocked about Kodak. I never imagined that they would go bankrupt. And I too shot cases of Tri-x, Plus-x and Kodachrome.

&quot;You burden digital with an expensing that results in a more dynamic, flexible product and call it even.&quot;
I&#039;m not burdening digital with extra expenses, it&#039;s just that digital requires software manipulation and calibration.

&quot;Your thesis says that a box of slides is just as good as a cataloged, keyworded, color-corrected LR database, and cheaper to boot.&quot;
They are. I&#039;ve been taking photographs since before there were personal computers. My slides and negs are still cataloged on 3x5 cards, and I have no problem finding any image I&#039;m looking for. These 4x5 cards are my catalogue, and are keyworded. Slides don&#039;t need to be color corrected either. 

&quot;Now, that box of slides may have the last laugh in 100 years&quot;
I&#039;ll let you check that out. I feel that I will be otherwise occupied in 100 years.

Have Fun,
Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian, thanks for coming back.</p>
<p>I too am shocked about Kodak. I never imagined that they would go bankrupt. And I too shot cases of Tri-x, Plus-x and Kodachrome.</p>
<p>&#8220;You burden digital with an expensing that results in a more dynamic, flexible product and call it even.&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;m not burdening digital with extra expenses, it&#8217;s just that digital requires software manipulation and calibration.</p>
<p>&#8220;Your thesis says that a box of slides is just as good as a cataloged, keyworded, color-corrected LR database, and cheaper to boot.&#8221;<br />
They are. I&#8217;ve been taking photographs since before there were personal computers. My slides and negs are still cataloged on 3&#215;5 cards, and I have no problem finding any image I&#8217;m looking for. These 4&#215;5 cards are my catalogue, and are keyworded. Slides don&#8217;t need to be color corrected either. </p>
<p>&#8220;Now, that box of slides may have the last laugh in 100 years&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;ll let you check that out. I feel that I will be otherwise occupied in 100 years.</p>
<p>Have Fun,<br />
Jeff</p>
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		<title>Comment on Digital Photography Costs More Than Film Photography by Jeff Colburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Colburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 06:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for commenting John.

Film and digital each have their own pros and cons. Like any tool, you have to choose the right one for a specific job. I find that I shoot the same number of exposures with digital as I did with film. The unit cost was not a consideration to me, getting the proper image was all I was interested in.

&quot;If I’d used film I’d have shot a roll and then neither I nor him would have known if the image was acceptable until a day later.&quot;
That really doesn&#039;t make sense to me. When I would shoot with an art director he would just look through the viewfinder to check composition and framing. I knew how to expose the image properly so that wasn&#039;t a consideration. If he approved the composition, I took the shot and that was that.

Have Fun,
Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting John.</p>
<p>Film and digital each have their own pros and cons. Like any tool, you have to choose the right one for a specific job. I find that I shoot the same number of exposures with digital as I did with film. The unit cost was not a consideration to me, getting the proper image was all I was interested in.</p>
<p>&#8220;If I’d used film I’d have shot a roll and then neither I nor him would have known if the image was acceptable until a day later.&#8221;<br />
That really doesn&#8217;t make sense to me. When I would shoot with an art director he would just look through the viewfinder to check composition and framing. I knew how to expose the image properly so that wasn&#8217;t a consideration. If he approved the composition, I took the shot and that was that.</p>
<p>Have Fun,<br />
Jeff</p>
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		<title>Comment on Digital Photography Costs More Than Film Photography by John Rettie</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Rettie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 01:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m late to the discussion. My epiphany for shooting digital came ten years ago when an editor asked me for a quick photo. I used a Nikon Coolpix 900 and shot just three pics. The art director was immediately able to see the image on the camera and okay it. I emailed it to him and I was done. If I&#039;d used film I&#039;d have shot a roll and then neither I nor him would have known if the image was acceptable until a day later. I find I shoot more with digital when shooting sports or models as the unit cost of each frame is almost zero. But when I am shooting something critical I shoot less with digital as I can immediately confirm I&#039;ve got the shot. Of course digital is not free but the unit cost is way way less. Sorry Jeff I cannot agree with your methodology, it&#039;s far too skewed. Digital has brought back the joy of photography for me after 40 years of shooting professionally as the cost of each extra shot is so low... especially when I use my iPhone 4S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m late to the discussion. My epiphany for shooting digital came ten years ago when an editor asked me for a quick photo. I used a Nikon Coolpix 900 and shot just three pics. The art director was immediately able to see the image on the camera and okay it. I emailed it to him and I was done. If I&#8217;d used film I&#8217;d have shot a roll and then neither I nor him would have known if the image was acceptable until a day later. I find I shoot more with digital when shooting sports or models as the unit cost of each frame is almost zero. But when I am shooting something critical I shoot less with digital as I can immediately confirm I&#8217;ve got the shot. Of course digital is not free but the unit cost is way way less. Sorry Jeff I cannot agree with your methodology, it&#8217;s far too skewed. Digital has brought back the joy of photography for me after 40 years of shooting professionally as the cost of each extra shot is so low&#8230; especially when I use my iPhone 4S.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Digital Photography Costs More Than Film Photography by Brian MacDougall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian MacDougall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff. Thanks for your considered response. I have no dog in the film vs. digital fight; I don&#039;t insist on anything. Shoot what you like and may the road rise up to meet you. I grew up shooting Tri-x and Plus-x and Kodachrome, and I am as dismayed as anyone to watch the gutting of Kodak. But, I do feel strongly about comparing apples to apples and I just don&#039;t feel you&#039;ve done that here, with lots of questionable assumptions, chief among them the equability of the end product. If you don&#039;t understand that, there&#039;s not much more I can say. You burden digital with an expensing that results in a more dynamic, flexible product and call it even. Your thesis says that a box of slides is just as good as a cataloged, keyworded, color-corrected LR database, and cheaper to boot. I say bullshit. It&#039;s like comparing a Tesla with a Yugo and calling it a wash on features.

Now, that box of slides may have the last laugh in 100 years when a LR database and it&#039;s optical and magnetic backups are gone from digital rot or obsolescence. As long as that box of slides is Kodachrome. Oh, wait. Never mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff. Thanks for your considered response. I have no dog in the film vs. digital fight; I don&#8217;t insist on anything. Shoot what you like and may the road rise up to meet you. I grew up shooting Tri-x and Plus-x and Kodachrome, and I am as dismayed as anyone to watch the gutting of Kodak. But, I do feel strongly about comparing apples to apples and I just don&#8217;t feel you&#8217;ve done that here, with lots of questionable assumptions, chief among them the equability of the end product. If you don&#8217;t understand that, there&#8217;s not much more I can say. You burden digital with an expensing that results in a more dynamic, flexible product and call it even. Your thesis says that a box of slides is just as good as a cataloged, keyworded, color-corrected LR database, and cheaper to boot. I say bullshit. It&#8217;s like comparing a Tesla with a Yugo and calling it a wash on features.</p>
<p>Now, that box of slides may have the last laugh in 100 years when a LR database and it&#8217;s optical and magnetic backups are gone from digital rot or obsolescence. As long as that box of slides is Kodachrome. Oh, wait. Never mind.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Digital Photography Costs More Than Film Photography by Jeff Colburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Colburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 00:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for commenting Brian. Lets address your comments.

&quot;In the film workflow you have a box of slides. What are you going to do with the slides? At the very least, you’d have to add the cost of a loupe and a lightbox for the slides or a carousel projector, but that still won’t get those photos distributed.&quot;
When I shot film I was working for a client. All they wanted was a box, or several boxes, of slides. Distribution wasn&#039;t an issue. And before digital I can&#039;t tell you how many loupes I was given by various companies. I have three sitting on my desk right now that were given to me. I was also given several light tables. Film related products were cheap and companies loved to hand them out. I never owned a carousel projector.

&quot;Try sending a slide to a publication and see how far you get these days.&quot;
Many publications still accept film, including Arizona Highways and Outdoor Photographer.

&quot;Seems to me to be fair, you have to set a standard of production for both; like estimate the cost to get the photo into a distributable modality. So, for the film totals, you’d have to add in a scanner or scanning service, calibrating monitor, software, etc.&quot;
Film is distributable and you don&#039;t need to scan it. You can scan it, or make duplicates if you want, but it depends how you plan to use your photographs. If you&#039;re just selling prints, you don&#039;t need anything but a lab. And if you&#039;re shooting for a specific client, the film is all you need. 

&quot;C’mon…you don’t need both [Lightroom and Photoshop}, and you certainly don’t need upgrades, and you certainly don’t need upgrades every year.&quot;
Every pro photographer I know has both, but I have been reading about many photographer dropping Photoshop and just using Lightroom. It depends what you need to do with your digital images. Do you need to upgrade whenever a new version comes out? No, but I would advise it.

I think the main problem with photographers who have not shot film (I don&#039;t know if this is your case or not Brian) is that they are so entrenched in digital that they can&#039;t image how photography can be done without. Even with film they want to instantly digitize it, thus bringing all the digital expense and time into the equation. Film is a simpler process, and less time consuming, than digital. They both have their pros and cons, and you need to choose the right tool for the job. But don&#039;t insist that film must be made digital or it&#039;s not viable, because that isn&#039;t the case.

Besides, the main purpose of the article wasn&#039;t to bash digital, but to counter all those digital photographers who keep saying digital is free because it doesn&#039;t use film. Digital is many things, but free isn&#039;t one of them.

Have Fun,
Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting Brian. Lets address your comments.</p>
<p>&#8220;In the film workflow you have a box of slides. What are you going to do with the slides? At the very least, you’d have to add the cost of a loupe and a lightbox for the slides or a carousel projector, but that still won’t get those photos distributed.&#8221;<br />
When I shot film I was working for a client. All they wanted was a box, or several boxes, of slides. Distribution wasn&#8217;t an issue. And before digital I can&#8217;t tell you how many loupes I was given by various companies. I have three sitting on my desk right now that were given to me. I was also given several light tables. Film related products were cheap and companies loved to hand them out. I never owned a carousel projector.</p>
<p>&#8220;Try sending a slide to a publication and see how far you get these days.&#8221;<br />
Many publications still accept film, including Arizona Highways and Outdoor Photographer.</p>
<p>&#8220;Seems to me to be fair, you have to set a standard of production for both; like estimate the cost to get the photo into a distributable modality. So, for the film totals, you’d have to add in a scanner or scanning service, calibrating monitor, software, etc.&#8221;<br />
Film is distributable and you don&#8217;t need to scan it. You can scan it, or make duplicates if you want, but it depends how you plan to use your photographs. If you&#8217;re just selling prints, you don&#8217;t need anything but a lab. And if you&#8217;re shooting for a specific client, the film is all you need. </p>
<p>&#8220;C’mon…you don’t need both [Lightroom and Photoshop}, and you certainly don’t need upgrades, and you certainly don’t need upgrades every year.&#8221;<br />
Every pro photographer I know has both, but I have been reading about many photographer dropping Photoshop and just using Lightroom. It depends what you need to do with your digital images. Do you need to upgrade whenever a new version comes out? No, but I would advise it.</p>
<p>I think the main problem with photographers who have not shot film (I don&#8217;t know if this is your case or not Brian) is that they are so entrenched in digital that they can&#8217;t image how photography can be done without. Even with film they want to instantly digitize it, thus bringing all the digital expense and time into the equation. Film is a simpler process, and less time consuming, than digital. They both have their pros and cons, and you need to choose the right tool for the job. But don&#8217;t insist that film must be made digital or it&#8217;s not viable, because that isn&#8217;t the case.</p>
<p>Besides, the main purpose of the article wasn&#8217;t to bash digital, but to counter all those digital photographers who keep saying digital is free because it doesn&#8217;t use film. Digital is many things, but free isn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
<p>Have Fun,<br />
Jeff</p>
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		<title>Comment on Digital Photography Costs More Than Film Photography by Jeff Colburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Colburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 23:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for commenting Dave. Yes, there are many variables in digital and film shooting. The main purpose of this post was to get the attention of those people I constantly run into that say digital photography is free because you don&#039;t shoot film. No matter how you shoot digital, it isn&#039;t free. Happy shooting.

Have Fun,
Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting Dave. Yes, there are many variables in digital and film shooting. The main purpose of this post was to get the attention of those people I constantly run into that say digital photography is free because you don&#8217;t shoot film. No matter how you shoot digital, it isn&#8217;t free. Happy shooting.</p>
<p>Have Fun,<br />
Jeff</p>
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